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Do not falsely accuse me of something I did not do

It was not me who removed the remnant low parameter from Fantala's article, so please do not accuse me of such.--Jasper Deng (talk) 01:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

North Indian ocean date format

Just wanted to say, why didn't you made this edit about years ago? As you may see in previous seasons articles, it is in MDY format. So are you sure about this and do you want me to switch most articles to DMY format? It's ok Meow if I do that by myself, I just feel bored atm in Wiki because of a lack of cyclones. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:47, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I used to do this but people tended to revert. I cannot tolerate this time. -- Meow 05:23, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

Re: Do not make such low-level mistake again

Sorry Meow I was editing a lot of things simultaneously at that time, and forgot about 01W. Thank you for spotting it and renaming it first. I promise I will make sure the numbering and naming will be right. Typhoon2013 (talk) 03:14, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Typhoon Nepartak (2016) has been nominated for Did You Know

Hello, Meow. Typhoon Nepartak (2016), an article you either created or to which you significantly contributed,has been nominated to appear on Wikipedia's Main Page as part of Did you know. You can see the hook and the discussion here. You are welcome to participate! Thank you. APersonBot (talk!) 12:01, 10 July 2016 (UTC)

Trackmap generator thing

Hi. I am planning to help in making storm tracks for the project. Ok, so far I have 1) Created a GitHub account, 2) went to [git clone git://github.com/titoxd/wptc-track.git this] and 3) Clicked 'Clone or Download'... Am I doing it right so far? If so, since I've already downloaded it, I have 3 files (data, png and tracks). Where do I go and what do I do now? Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:57, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Which operating system are you using now? -- Meow 08:59, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Operating system? When I downloaded it, there was a file called 'wptc-track-master'. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:07, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes your operating system, Windows, macOS or Linux? -- Meow 09:09, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I am using a Windows. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:11, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Alright there or eating cat treats? Anything else? If necessary? Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:13, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

I am not familiar with setting this project in Windows. Maybe you could ask Cyclonebiskit, Krit-tonkla or Supportstorm for help, they are active. -- Meow 13:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Typhoon Nepartak (2016)

On 23 July 2016, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Typhoon Nepartak (2016), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a 205 km/h (127 mph) gust of wind in Taitung County, Taiwan, during Typhoon Nepartak (pictured) on July 8, 2016, is the highest recorded in the county? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Typhoon Nepartak (2016). You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Typhoon Nepartak (2016)), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 03:01, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Updating season timelines

Hi Meow. Just letting you know that recently me and JD had discussed about updating the season timelines, and we confirmed that we should update the timeline if it's the next day as of the UTC time (or update it during or after 00Z). The reason behind this was because I saw many users updating the timeline around the 20-23Z mark, which is too early and has not happened according to that time zone, and therefore I followed them. Then recently I got warned by another user foe doing it, then during the next day, he does it. So it made me confusing. Thanks!! Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:49, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

I never updated before the agency had reported. -- Meow 09:10, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

First favor

Hello! Since i never have a favor for you, can i have one? Typhoon2013 is using Ipad or something, so i can't have another favor for him. Can you upload the SNPP image of TS Darby, TS Estelle, TS Frank and TD 08E (But now Hurricane Georgette) from the gallery? it can't fit on our laptop. The others is my job. if your'e okay for that, so TY! - Nino Marakot ( talk ) 10:44, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

I have already uploaded the one of Georgette yesterday. I may upload the others when I have time. -- Meow 13:03, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

No! What i say is 00:00 gallery! This is it:https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/imagery/single.cgi?image=DarbyEstelleFrankEight.A2016204.0000.375m.jpg - Nino Marakot ( talk ) 12:44, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Oops, and these too https://lance.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/imagery/single.cgi?image=DarbyEstelleFrankGeorgette.A2016204.2340.375m.jpg Nino Marakot ( talk ) 12:49 27 July 2016 (UTC)

I have been very exhausted recently... -- Meow 13:02, 27 July 2016 (UTC)

Okay, try at different days. The 00:00 image is just same as Cyclonebiskit uploaded, but at visible image. - Nino Marakot (talk) 04:40, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

I can neither update track maps nor upload satellite images for two day, as I am not in my city now. -- Meow 06:55, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

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TD outside basin

Hi, Meow and thanks for your edit. Just wondering, the JMA is somehow tracking a TD east of the basin. If the system does not enter the basin, do we add it in or put it in the Other systems section? I'm thinking the Other systems section because this is also what happened in 2010. Typhoon2013 (talk) 08:45, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

JMA mentioned Omeka as a tropical depression west of the International Date Line in 2010. As this system is east of the IDL and considered as a non-tropical low by the Ocean Prediction Center, I doubt we should mention it in the typhoon season article. -- Meow 11:49, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

Oh, I was mentioning about another system in that season which the JMA classified it only to the east of the basin. But anyways, of course, if the current TD enters the basin, we'll add it. Typhoon2013 (talk) 11:57, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

I have removed the TD from the PTS since it never moved into the basin and added it to the PHS.Jason Rees (talk) 19:42, 12 August 2016 (UTC)

I think another depression forming in North Indian Ocean. Let me tell you

Meow, I was thinking that a depression over Bangladesh is gonna classify it as Deep Depression BOB 04 . But let me tell you. It was just the remnants of Tropical Storm Dianmu that we monitored on Western Pacific. If the IMD dosen't upgrade it, i was just a fool. But just letting you know. - Nino Marakot (talk) 11:03, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Yes the United States indicates it is Dianmu. It hasn’t entered the Bay of Bengal so I doubt if it will be called BOB 04. -- Meow 11:06, 21 August 2016 (UTC)

Lionrock as a cat3 source

Hi Meow. You recently made an edit considering that Lionrock is now a cat3. I wanted to know what source you are using just so I could help update. The only similar source so far is the one what Jasper is using. Thanks so much. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:26, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Running track data -- Meow 07:30, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

Typhoon Lionrock (2016)

Hi Meow @Typhoon2013: @Jason Rees:, can you help me built the article about Typhoon Lionrock? I do appreciate if I could use some help once more again. Thank you. Hamham31Heke!KushKush! 01:24, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

I was planning to write about it tomorrow. It looks empty now. -- Meow 12:23, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

@Hamham31: Thanks for the invitation to help you write it and I will try to help write it as times allows over the next few days.Jason Rees (talk) 20:46, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

If you can’t finish earlier, I may finish it today. -- Meow 04:51, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Too many things to do today... You should right write it first. If it is undone on Thursday, I would like to finish it. -- Meow 12:25, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Meow - If you wish to jump in and help expand the MH or any other parts of the article you are most welcome too.Jason Rees (talk) 13:10, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Image

Yes my reasons matter. Why do you think I reverted you twice. I can easily remove the missing corner and still have a presentable image. And my color correction "theory" is a real thing. Images taken from satellites need atmospheric correction to remove the blue haze that is present in your Himawari-8 image. While I don't have a link to the exact image you posted would look like with this correction, I do have one taken from earlier yesterday. This is close to what the image should look like with with atmospheric correction. Supportstorm (talk) 14:55, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Nope. They add a near-infrared band over images. -- Meow 16:34, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Yeah for good reasoning.

The daytime true color portion of the product is created by first performing a Rayleigh correction on the red, green, and blue visible bands, in addition to the 0.86 micrometer "veggie band." This serves to correct for atmospheric scattering and results in a much more crisp image. Since Himawari's green band is centered at 0.51 micrometers, a bit different than the green band on VIIRS and MODIS (0.55 micrometers), a little information from the 0.86 micrometer band 4 is blended with the 0.51 micrometer band in order to make vegetated areas the correct shade of green. Finally, some information from the 10.4 micrometer band 13 is used to estimate cloud top height and to correct some assumptions related to Rayleigh scattering at steep look angles. At night, a static city lights background derived from the VIIRS Day Night Band is combined with data from the 10.4 micrometer band 13 and the 3.9 micrometer band 7. Liquid water clouds are highlighted by shades of red and ice clouds are shades of gray. The cloud layer is given a variable level of transparency depending on the height of the clouds, with high ice clouds being the least transparent.

From what I can tell that band is used to correct the green channel since apparently the satellite can't capture the true range of the green spectrum. Even more reason I'm against using the uncalibrated Himawari-8 images. Anyway the way you treat me and others certitude is what is making me mad right now. You refuse to even consider outside argument of any kind and I felt I've had similar talks with you before. Supportstorm (talk) 17:58, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Actually near-infrared is not even used at all in the image during daytime hours so I don't know how what you said was relevant. Supportstorm (talk) 18:01, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

What you did are only reverting and considering yours better, aren't they? The colour correction theory may be true, but are colours from the Himawari-8 images really incorrect? Just simply think about this: Is the Earth blue or black?

I am absolutely aware of the resolution of VIIRS images, and I have uploaded VIIRS images many times. The issue of that VIIRS image on August 28 is that the typhoon is on the edge, making it even more blur than the one on that Himawari-8 image. I am also aware of that removing the cut is possible, yet it would make the VIIRS image look too crowded.

Overall, my reasons for using the Himawari-8 image are simply these: Clearness, completeness and not crowded; moreover, my filename is always based on ISO 8601 for internatioalisation. If you think my reasons are not proper, you can let more people judge on this. Being mad for this is unnecessary. -- Meow 01:35, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

It's not that on edge, the entire storm is in frame even with the crop with sparing room. The blurriness only really occurs within the farthest 10% of the image form the center. The colors is my main strife as there is a world of difference between an unprocessed and processed image. Atmospheric correction is meant to reduce haze of particles scattering light and thus make the image clearer and uniformed throughout the scene, so yes the colors are incorrect. The image name standardization is a non issue as I can change it. I'm mad because you straight up told me I was wrong without any consideration of what I was saying. Supportstorm (talk) 02:21, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Czyhieras

I already warned this user for their vandalism, and I deliberately avoided templating them. Please, consider reverting yours as redundant.--Jasper Deng (talk) 06:54, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

All right, although mine should be formal. -- Meow 06:58, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

I did mention that this user is on their last warning, too, so it's not even a level 1 situation. This isn't their first edit and most of their other edits are vandalism too.--Jasper Deng (talk) 07:07, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

Is the sentence transition smooth in this sentence?

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Typhoon_Meranti_(2016)&diff=739725714&oldid=739708774

--VintageHygrometer (talk) 23:11, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

If you want to use and for it, remove the comma. -- Meow 05:00, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for this edit you made. It now looks like a proper English sentence.--VintageHygrometer (talk) 07:25, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Something you might enjoy

The five scales: [1] - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:12, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

LOL in fact the second one (semi-furry) is the most popular in furry fandom. -- Meow 18:24, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

I believe it, more dress up options. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 18:30, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Except the hair, the third one is also popular—topless... -- Meow 18:43, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

Little help if possible

I've noticed you've worked on Template:Infobox hurricane somewhat, and I was wondering if I could get some help with something. I've been trying to create a fictional scale with the inclusion of hypercanes (color and wind speed; which is set to 434 kts, are already set), which I know are fictional right now, but I feel like I wanna make something in my sandbox that documents the first recorded one (imo ive decided to set it in the year 2064). However every possible solution I have tried has resulted in nothing, with the example having still saying "Category 5 major hurricane (SSHWS/NWS)" rather then "Hypercane (SSHWS/HWS)". I was wondering if maybe you can try to help make it so it will work properly? --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 23:00, 8 October 2016 (UTC)

I believe that this should be discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones or I will be considered as vandalism. -- Meow 09:04, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

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Vandalism in Typhoon Haima

Abdullah Almarri - A.W.S.T. (talk) 09:39, 21 October 2016 (UTC)Hello, nice to meet you, a user named "Charles avril2721" did a bad thing to Typhoon Haima, however, I edited the page and removed his mess, and I hope that guy has learned a lesson not to vandalize a page again.

A barnstar for you!

	The Writer's Barnstar
	For your hard work on Pacific typhoon articles, I present you this barnstar. Keep up the great work! ♫ Hurricanehink (talk) 16:03, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

1619 Aere JMA BT

Hi, Meow. So according to the JMA BT for Aere, the storm dissipated on Oct 10. Although its remnants re-generated on Oct 13 but only JTWC classified it as a the same system. Do we put Aere's dissipation date on Oct 10 or 14? Also because some say that we follow the RSMC Dates. Typhoon2013 (talk) 06:54, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Aere degenerated into a low-pressure area then reintensified into a tropical depreesion. If we want to follow RSMC Tokyo strictly, we should use October 10. -- Meow 08:18, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Yea I do know that. Otherwise we wait for the JTWC BT? Though it's most likely they classified its re-generation still at 22W/Aere/same system. This is going to be quite a (small) problem don't you think? Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:30, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

I just don’t understand how Wikipedia really determines on this dispute. -- Meow 13:20, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox storm small

Template:Infobox storm small has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox storm. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Zackmann08 (^{Talk to me}/_{What I been doing}) 07:11, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you.

I really tried to remove what the editor did to the 2016 Pacific typhoon season page, but I have to say thank you for removing his edit, maybe one day I'll know how to revert. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abdullah Almarri - A.W.S.T. (talk • contribs) 07:34, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

super typhoon nina-

pls change++ it to already at 220 kph — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.3.176.137 (talk) 09:20, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikipedia follows RSMC Tokyo, not PAGASA. -- Meow 10:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

its not PAGASA its JWA — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.3.176.137 (talk) 10:54, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

It is JMA not JWA and please read their advisories carefully. -- Meow 12:47, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Nicole image

Hi and I've decided to see you because you're pretty much the "image expert" in this project, hehe. But anyways, for Hurricane Nicole, I've lately uploaded an image of it because that image was closer to peak and during that time it was a Category 3 (there are no images I could find during Cat4/peak). Also the other image, or the original one was during Category 2 intensity. What I've thought is that if there are no images during its peak, then the image should be close to peak and its highest intensity. So apparently I added in the image in Nicole's infobox though someone is trying to revert me and don't disagree. Image could be "low-quality" he said, but I don't know so help I guess, thanks. Typhoon2013 (talk) 23:09, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

Need help please

There is a discussion right now. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tropical cyclones#Using JMA weather maps to extend western Pacific storm tracks needs to stop. Typhoon2013 (talk) 23:24, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

I just answered that I don’t want to answer this ridiculous question. -- Meow 04:47, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Please change your user page

Wikipedia is not a web host.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 21:14, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

Fletcher

Where is the best track? I can't find. Could you help? --219.79.181.16 (talk) 01:04, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

• BoM
• IBTrACS
• Digital Typhoon

I would recommend the last one as it is easier to read. -- Meow 06:45, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Cyclone Enawo

Do you mind helping with expanding Cyclone Enawo? It's poised to be the strongest TC to strike Madagascar in a few years, and I think that's more then enough for notability. I've got the basics (templates, categories, sections) set up, but I would appreciate some more help as it hasn't gotten as much edits as I thought it would today. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 02:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Isn’t someone working on it? 🤔 -- Meow 04:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Other then sporadically me and Typhoon, no. Would really appreciate some help esp on the MH as I don't know how to find the archive for advisories.--MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 16:18, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I will start to expand in 13 hours unless anyone has written. Before that I have no free time to write. -- Meow 16:44, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

@MarioProtIV: I really feel pissed. You asked me to write. After writing one paragraph, someone also wrote it. -- Meow 08:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

SWIO season summary map

Can you add 07S's track and the rest of Enawo's? It's somewhat outdated. --MarioProtIV (^talk/_contribs) 15:05, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

I think Cyclonebiskit would update it. I only did the summary map for the South Atlantic Ocean. -- Meow 16:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)

9z disturbance summaries

Although advisories for particular tropical cyclones are limited to the 6-hourly times, the daily tropical disturbance summary is issued at 9z and may contain information different from the advisories themselves. For example, the summary says Donna has 85-knot 10-minute winds, whereas the preceding tropical disturbance advisory for Donna indicated 75 knots. In particular, it explicitly mentions 9z as the time of analysis. As this is still the RSMC's word, it counts.--Jasper Deng (talk) 11:24, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks I got it, but please do not use “9z”. This is far from ISO 8601. -- Meow 11:50, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

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Ex-Tropical cyclone

Hi, Meow. I just want to clarify or know what is an "ex-tropical cyclone"? If a storm, or cyclone (mostly used by BoM), had weakened to an "exTc", does it mean it weakened into a remnant low, or does it still count that it is still active? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:08, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

It means a former tropical cyclone which is below the tropical cyclone (gale) strength instead of characteristics in the basin. The bureau describes all tropical lows ‘ex-tropical cyclones’ if they have been designated a name. Everything ‘ex-’ is used to be something, yet it doesn’t mean anything else. -- Meow 14:20, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Sorry for the very late reply. So therefore, if a cyclone is downgraded into an "ex-tc", we still consider that it is still active right? Typhoon2013 (talk) 21:53, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

For the Australian region and South Pacific basins, it is technically a tropical low with a name.  Meow 09:58, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

In Ella's case its not a tropical low - Nadi mentioned in their routine forecasts for Fiji that Ella had been downgraded straight to an area of low pressure. Generally ive noticed over the years that Nadi would indicate if it was still a tropical depression within the Tropical Disturbance Summuary.Jason Rees (talk) 10:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Thus, it becomes a challenge for us to determine the nature of a cyclone for those two basins. We have to refer to different advisories.  Meow 10:36, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Personally I think we as the international community need to provide a list of comments/actionable things that need to change with both basins for example more consistency with what a system is called. Also at times it is worth looking at other bulletins like the marine Bulletin or Fiji's general weather summary to find the better info.Jason Rees (talk) 11:19, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Winston

While I agree with some of your reasoning, I disagree that it shouldn't be cited because it is notable and is official, regardless of its circustances. Also, the Dvorak technique there's a lower bias on minimum sea-level pressure for the Western Pacific, but that doens't impede us to call Typhoon Tip as the most intense tropical cyclone ever recorded worldwide, while that by your arguments, it wouldn't be proper to compare it to storms from other basins. ABC paulista (talk) 16:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Your statement is not completely accurate as NHC and CPHC never use 10-minute sustained winds. What you referred to is the original conversion from the Dvorak technique, yet JMA has already switched to its own conversion table since early 1990s. According to that table, CI8.0 equals to 888 hPa. Moreover, the central pressure of Tip is observed, not estimated. 🐱💬 18:12, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

I still don't know if Winston's stats were purely estimated or more based on local observations during its landfalls on Fiji, but most of both Tip's and Winston's competition had their intensities estimated per satellite measurements, so my point still stands.

Moreover, this record is official, hence more verifiable than any supposed bias on estimation techniques. ABC paulista (talk) 21:39, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

You didn’t get my main point: There are four responsible areas that 10-minute sustained winds are not used. Tip’s intensity is completely based on observations as the Dvorak technique was not a standard in 1979. 🐱💬 10:49, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Doing it manually ?

Hi, again. So this same user says "to do it manually" for the current infobox in the movement section. In the WPac, like we always do before, we put the "convert" template, so it could convert it for us, right? But this guy wants to do it manually. Would you still want to use the "convert" template or have a change and do it manually like the PHS and AHS basins? Typhoon2013 (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2017 (UTC)

That user should start a topic in the WikiProject talk page. 🐱💬 00:57, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Do you still upload?

Hi, Meow and it's kinda been a long time. But do you still upload images, or edit? Because I barely see your name in the View history box. I'm just asking because there is someone else who uploads images too but his versions are not clear, plus he prefers his images than the gallery versions instead, and I'm like having an "edit war" in these images. Like these files: [Eugene_2017-07-09_1815Z.jpg] and [Nanmadol 2017-07-03 0512Z.jpg]. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:54, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Usually I don’t contribute a lot on weaker, Northeast Pacific and North Atlantic systems unless they are really important or very strong. I have checked the two images and the gallery pictures are proper enough to use. Some editors wasted time to crop or ‘enlarge’.  🐱💬 08:04, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

@Typhoon2013: I hate to say this, but lots of what that person uploaded are disasters... How can people accept something like that?  🐱💬 05:48, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Sad, but true. No offense to that person as well.. but I am just here following the guidelines of the project and following what you guys used to do. Not just about images, but this as well.Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:54, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

What site?

Hi again :P. Thank you for updating the PTS as well, but what site do you use? Because JMA still doesn't track the 15th TD based on their site. Typhoon2013 (talk) 07:48, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

😾 note

Do not revert again at 😾 to a page which does not even mention 😾 in a reliable source. Do it again and I'll request you be blocked.--Otterathome (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

You are so impolite. 🐱💬 13:19, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Pre-1900 typhoons?

Hi, I noticed one of your hobbies is translating. I recently acquired a book listing several hundred typhoons affecting Guangdong Province from the year 975 into the 1900s, which is pretty much entirely in (traditional) Chinese. I had planned on using it as a starting point to write an article/list about Pre-1900 WPAC typhoons, but it's a big task. Are you interested in working on it? I'm also not sure how I should format the dates either, because most of the typhoons only list a (presumably) Chinese lunar calendar year, but several important ones list a day which can be converted. atomic7732 22:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

LAND02 or BOB05?

Is the system in the Nio basin right now a land depression? Because it seems like the system formed over water so wouldn't it be a BOB system? Typhoon2013 (talk) 00:14, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

IMD never called it BOB 05 and never mentioned it as a system over the Bay of Bengal. Those editors are wrong. 🐱💬 04:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the clarification. What I am really concerned is that the Nio articles are 'dead' with no users editing it, aside from anon users. Someone should join the project and help for the Nio cyclones. I'm sorry but you'll understand that I'm more of a WPac updater. Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:44, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

"Fake News"

Hi, Meow. An anon user had stated that this is "fake news"? Is this true? Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:40, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

I cannot read Vietnamese directly. Helped by Google Translate, I presume it should be a piece of news reporting there’s fake news. 🐱💬 11:15, 19 October 2017 (UTC)

Help with false color image

Hello, Meow. Can you help me figure that this image has time indicated on the Real Time page of NASA? Remember

this image you uploaded? Wondering if you figured it all by yourself or with help. - Nino MArakot (talk) 03:50, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

29W

Hello, again. In the case for 29W, did it (briefly) enter the Nio basin? It states that the WPac extends up to 100E, although Nio extends up to the Malay Peninsula. 29W passed the 100E mark, but the JTWC issued their last advisory just over the Peninsula. So could we at least mention this or it did not really entered the Nio basin? Typhoon2013 (talk) 09:19, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

For now it stays out per the rules on original research, since it didn’t enter the NIO. If the IMD/JTWC start warning on it again or mention it in BT as in the NIO, then we can add it in.Jason Rees (talk) 09:57, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

JTWC reported that 29W had dissipated over the Malay Peninsula, and IMD never upgraded it to a depression. 🐱💬 10:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

@Jason Rees: and Meow. Well this (may) be a problem. As of the majority of PTS articles, it states that "The scope of this article is limited to the Pacific Ocean to the north of the equator between 100°E and the 180th meridian." Also majority of Nio articles states that "...and west of the Malay Peninsula." There is still a portion of the Pacific basin (or Gulf of Thailand) around 98-99E. The JMA classifies that surpassing the 100E is a different basin. This may be not our problem, but possibly the agencies, as they do not state it clearly where the border of the WPac and Nio is (whether its by the 100E mark, or the Malay Peninsula). Typhoon2013 (talk) 10:51, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

I'm curious.

I couldn't help but wonder about your intentions behind your open and sexual description about yourself on your userpage. Care to talk about it?--VintageHygrometer (talk) 12:53, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

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December 2017

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Typhoon2013. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. You quite frankly should know better than that. Not a nice thing to say in response to a holiday greeting... Jasper Deng (talk) 19:59, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, I would just like to say I have similar issues with User:Typhoon2013 for over a year by now but have remained quiet about it. I've also agreed with most of what User:Meow has said over the months. That's all I have to say, and I have no intentions of being further involved.--VintageHygrometer (talk) 14:24, 28 December 2017 (UTC)

No replies, I see. --VintageHygrometer (talk) 12:59, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

As you said “I have no intentions of being further involved.”🤔 🐱💬 13:01, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Quite frankly I think some of the issues U2 have with Typhoon2013 are pathetic and not worth getting involved with. For example him you guys taking issue with him licensing an image from a NASA/NOAA satellite as a NASA image. Also who cares if TY2013 uploads an image that is square and not rectangle, commons is large enough to host both.Jason Rees (talk) 13:51, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

I didn’t talk about NASA/NOAA, as Suomi NPP and other JPSS satellites are of a joint subject between NASA and NOAA. What I mentioned is that he did not distinguish VIIRS from MODIS. 🐱💬 13:56, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Which still strikes me as pathetic, to be frank, but im not an image expert and nor are 99% of this project.Jason Rees (talk) 14:21, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Well, I would really appreciate it if he was a bit more considerate overall.--VintageHygrometer (talk) 14:28, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

At least a reply would be nice. All I want to say is that Meow is not alone in this.--VintageHygrometer (talk) 14:37, 31 December 2017 (UTC)

Cyclone Cebile

Pls make a new Wikipedia page for Cebile Alaha.cyclone (talk) 13:56, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

There is no significant need for an independent article. 🐱💬 14:01, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

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Recent changes

• The 2017 wikitext editor is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. It has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. The team have been comparing the performance of different editing environments. They have studied how long it takes to open the page and start typing. The study uses data for more than one million edits during December and January. Some changes have been made to improve the speed of the 2017 wikitext editor and the visual editor. Recently, the 2017 wikitext editor opened fastest for most edits, and the 2010 WikiEditor was fastest for some edits. More information will be posted at mw:Contributors/Projects/Editing performance.
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Terminology

Hello Meow. Would you mind defining what you mean by 'ratio' in the context in which you used it here, and in many other places when completely disregarding all statements I make about an image. ChocolateTrain (talk) 23:49, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

That is the aspect ratio. 🐱💬 06:18, 25 March 2018 (UTC)